What influenced the Ancient Greek writers?
- History for the Ancient Greeks started with the Illiad (Homer's great epic poem)
- The poem, which was finally put to paper in the 7th century BC was the pinnacle for later works to come from Greek and Roman writers
What themes underlie the Ancient Greek writings?
- Many of the literary elements found in the Illiad are found in varying degrees in the narratives of Herodotus
- The history written during the Greek and Roman periods never lost its association with war and politics
- It was never really associated with the role of women or the social and economical issues
What was the role of the Ancient Greek writers?
- The Greek historians saw their role not as simple narration, but as offering comments and reflecting on the nature of the world - providing moral lessons
- Their works were meant to be entertaining, with exciting plots
- Its origin were based on epic poetry and in the descriptions of men and gods
Thucydides
- An Athenian aristocrat who witnessed the Peloponnesian War first hand
- He was elected in 424 BC as one of the ten Athenian commanders
- He was sent into exile for failing to defeat the Spartan attack at Amphipolis (Thrace)
- Although he kept in line with the writing of the period, in recording the war he was recalling the work of his predecessors, Herodotus and Homer
What were the methodologies used by Thucydides?
- He maintained that the work of his predecessors were exaggerated and lacking evidential weight (cough cough Homer cough), as well as more focused on being entertaining rather than truthful (cough cough Herodotus cough)
- He emphasised the importance of
- Sifting through examined evidence
- Potential conflict between the attractions of entertainment, telling a good story and the rigours of truthful reporting, even in the context of literary rivalries
"In investigating past history, it must be admitted that one cannot rely on every detail which has come down to us by way of tradition. People are inclined to accept all sorts of stories from ancient times in an un-critical way...most people in fact are much more inclined to accept the first story they hear, and will not take the trouble to find out the truth"
Thucydides on his own work
"with regard to my factual reporting of events I have made it a principle not to write down the first story that has come my way, and not even to be guided by my own impressions; either I was present myself at the events I describe or else I heard them from eye-witnesses whose reports I have checked as thoroughly as possible. Not that the truth was easy to find: different eye-witnesses give different accounts of the same event, speaking out of partiality of one side or from imperfect memories. And it may well be that my history will seem less easy to read because of the absence of a romantic element to my work. It will be enough for me, however, if these words of mine are judged to be useful by those who want to judge accurately the events of the past. My work is not a piece to meet the taste of an immediate public, but was done to last forever"
- He attempted to set his own work aside from that of his predecessors, maintaining that the war he records was far greater and more destructive than any other war previously recorded
- He claims that his work is very accurate
- He limits himself to events at which he was present, or could find an eyewitness for
- Noted the contradictory tendency of eyewitnesses, whether it be due to memory or bias
- The main significance surrounding Thucydides was that for the first time he gave explicit expression not only to the problem of sources, but also to a methodology of analysing and judging their reliability
Xenophon
- An Athenian who was born a generation later than Thucydides, and was a pupil of Socrates
- He personally experienced the political turmoil of coup and counter-coup that gripped Athens after its fall to Sparta in 404 BC
- He enlisted as a mercenary into the army of Cyrus III (the Persian King) in the aftermath of the Peloponnesian War and after his defeat marched the Greek soldiers to the coast of the Black sea
- He did not return to his homeland but rather took up a position with the Spartan Army where he became an admirer of King Agesilaos. He was banished for this act of treason against Athens but towards the end of his life was granted reconciliation from his native country
What is the basis of his work?
- Xenophon's Hellenika picks up from where Thucydides' Peloponnesian War ends in 411 BC
- Book 1 completes the story down to the surrender of Athens and Samos and the knocking down of the long walls in 404 BC
- Book 2 is the longer section of the text which narrates the fortunes of Athens and Sparta in the decades after the war ending with the Battle of Mantineia
Links between Xenophon and Thucydides
- Xenophon's work owes much to the work of his predecessor:
- Subject matter - War and Politics
- Focus - confined to the Greek world particularly Athens and Sparta
- Thucydidean system of dating - summer and winter
- Speeches
- Detached objectivity - sources are hardly mentioned or discussed; personal involvement in the events described are played down
Plutarch
- A philosopher above all with a strong interest in history which he considered in biographical terms
- His key work is his Parallel Lives and what is central to his work is the exploration of character
- His work is remarkable for its focus on the person of the individual subject and for its concern with issues of character and personal morality
Aristophanes
- The comic playwright of the fifth (and late fourth) century BC is very useful for Athenian political life and also the impact of warfare on it
- Aristophanes was a Greek comic writer, who was the son of Philippus
- Most of his plays were political satires highlighting the troubles in Athens during that period. Many of them were performed at festivals, watched and voted for by the people
- His first surviving work is The Archanians (425 BC). Athens at this time was demoralised because of the Peloponnesian War and the death of Pericles six years earlier. The play highlights the problems the people of Attica were having with constant raids on their land and continual enemy invasions
Other works:
- His second surviving play is The Knights (424 BC). In the play, Aristophanes pokes fun at the Athenian leader of the time Cleon, for his tyrannical leadership and also for his alcoholic tendencies. Because of the sharp attack on Cleon, Aristophanes had to play the part of Cleon himself. The play gained Aristophanes first place at the festival
- Aristophanes' next play was not for another seven years and in that time a law had been passed attempting to keep in check political satire. Aristophanes' next surviving play was The Birds (414 BC) and poked fun at Athens for its fondness of litigation. In 411 BC Aristophanes wrote Lysistrata, which is another anti-war play and shows the plight of women trying to bring about peace in an attempt to stop losing their sons to the war